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SGA debate spills over to social media


Published: Thursday, February 21, 2013

Updated: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:02


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Some senators from the Student Government Association spilled their anger over onto Facebook after a heated gun control debate on Tuesday.

“I just love being thrown under the bus asshole!” Sen. Josh Beaman said in a Facebook post.

Caucus Chair for the College of Education Ian Cottle commented on the post trashing one of the speakers and an entire college.

“Don’t worry he’s only a fine arts major haha,” Cottle said.

Beaman said the post was not directed as a student as some first believed, but instead directed towards another senator.

“My status last night…was in no way directed at any of the students in the audience at last night’s meeting it was directed at one senator that spoke during the meeting,” Beaman said.

However, Cottle didn’t offer any apologies about his comment some say insult an entire group of students.

“I was unaware (the senator from Beaman’s post) was not a fine arts major,” Cottle said.

SGA President Shane Rankin said although the post wasn’t necessary, Beaman had every right to make it.


A thread about the bill also appeared on the Facebook page “Prison City Confessions” where anyone is able to post anonymous comments.

Debate broke out between student Ginger Malone and several SGA members, as well as other members of the university community.

Malone said SGA hasn’t fully advertised the forums and discussions on the issue.

“Hardly anyone showed up,” she said. “Whether you are for or against it isn't really the issue.”

She said the senators don’t want to hear what students say.

“They think that we are too stupid and too disinterested to be able to decide for ourselves,” Malone said. “Voting on the bill will happen this Tuesday. I urge you to speak to the SGA before that, and let them know that you want the student body to decide this.”

Beaman commented on the level SGA has attempted to get student feedback.

“We advertised this in the (Houstonian), on Facebook and through channel 7 news for the last 3 weeks,” he said. “So don't you (Malone) dare try and say we are trying to pass this without the student body's knowledge.”

Although KSHU Channel 7 news has yet to have a newscast or publicly air information about the meeting, the Houstonian has written several articles about the bill debate, as well as, the Student Government Facebook page.

Rankin repeated Beaman’s ideals.

SHSU students John Pham and Steven Smith also commented that it is up to the individual students to read student media and follow group publications in order to find out relevant information.

“All the tools have been given to (the students),” Smith said. “It’s your responsibility to use said tools to do what you will.”

Malone said regardless of what was done, the lack of participation in SGA activities “should say something.”

“The SGA is supposed to represent us, but we rarely see or hear about it (The SGA),” she said. “I agree that we should do more to be informed, and that is one reason why I am so passionate about this, and the other politics that I am a part of outside of SHSU, but this bill is not something that should be taken lightly.”

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Sun Feb 24 2013 22:08
advertising on facebook isn't enough. there are a multitude of channels that could have been used. flyers. e-mails through student services. e-mails direct from SGA members. if SHSU is ok with selling our emails to local apartment complexes to spam us with supposed "great rates" then surely they would be OK with allowing the SGA to notify students of upcoming ballot initiatives. I saw WAAAY more advertisement for the Health Center deal last semester than I've seen for this yet
Thu Feb 21 2013 21:54
Also, according to new TSUS regulations, 10% of the student body HAS to vote on a referendum. It's up to SGA to make sure people have information on the referendums.
Thu Feb 21 2013 21:46
If they want to say that they only listen to the opinions of student that showed up to forums and that's good enough for them and those students spoke out AGAINST the bill and FOR the referendum amendment, they're obviously voting their own opinions.

They advertised it on a Facebook page that has less than 200 likes and had one article in a student newspaper that barely gets any circulation. They claim they advertised on Channel 7, but Channel 7 hasn't even run yet.

I also know for a fact that there has only been talk of impeaching ONE senator and it happened to be the Senator that called them out on their bull. And before you claim that they're threatening impeach for the way that he spoke to them, there have been no threats of impeach against Senator Beaman who disrespected a Senator or Senator Cottle who dismissed an entire college.

The fact of the matter is, they HAVEN'T advertised this to the best of their ability. Most students don't even know this is happening. It's their responsibility to gather the opinion and represent the student body and they haven't done that.

And someone doesn't have to be in Student Government to understand how it works. There are constitutionally requirements for impeachment through the Senate, but there are also ways for the student body to impeach a Senator.

Thu Feb 21 2013 18:38
Well wait a second, how can you say they are disregarding what the student body wants? Because as a student in the student body, I support the bill! And so do many others. I'm all for supporting Constitutional rights! So that's YOUR opinion that they are neglecting what the students want. Less than 8% of the student population even votes for SGA and the other 92% don't pay attention or vote as it is so why would they take the time to read a bill? SGA didn't even have to open it up for student discussion, but as an informed and active student I'm very grateful they did because I got the opportunity to express my opinion and listen to the opinions of others. A&M and Texas State didn't even open it up for student discussion, they voted on it anyways. This has been advertised and open for student discussion for several weeks and hardly anybody has shown up. Only a few students, including myself, from both sides have shown up to give their opinion. You would think that if 18,000+ students really had an issue there would be a lot more people speaking out. And for arguments sake lets say it does get voted "yes" on, it doesn't mean it's going to pass. It has to go through many more layers to get approved and even then if it does get passed, we as the students have the right to petition and appeal it.

And in reference to the impeachment comment, you cannot impeach somebody just because you disagree with their decisions. I'm not in SGA and judging by your comment neither are you, so you have no idea what actions are being taken against that senator.

Thu Feb 21 2013 17:52
SGA thinks they represent the student body and believe that when they vote, they're voting what the student body wants. However, they obviously disregarded the feelings and opinions of the student body when all but a few of them voted AGAINST taking this bill to a student referendum. All the students that spoke about the amendment (with the exception of one) spoke FOR the referendum. The Student Government Association, which consists of only 7 voting members actually elected by the student body, showed an obvious disrespect for the 18,000 students on this campus. They do not in any way represent me or my views and I think every Senator and office who voted against the referendum amendment should be impeached.
Thu Feb 21 2013 17:02
The fact that the president of such an organization will let the senator that insulted the student body and other senators remain in his position is ridiculous and I believe all of the student body of SHSU should impeach him.

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